She's a MILF to the 10th degree and we've talked about it and agree that she should at least try it. We are already swingers and have posted several sexual pictures on Redclouds.com and have gotten great feedback. Some of those posts are of groups that we've been in and her with other women. The problem is we don't know any directors or agents here in Michigan. Can someone hook us up? BTW, so you know I'm not talking shit we are listed on www.swinglifestyle.com/ as PHCple69... We figure since we fuck other people anyway why not get paid!

Welcome Zofo17! I think Freddy or Tony Comstock would have more of the information you're looking for, but one thing I'm not so sure about is getting easy access in Michigan. LA would definitely be the main place to go in my opinion.

Hope to hear more of you, we love hearing from people of all backgrounds

In any case, I fear that fucking has little to do with the porn industry. I know nothing about porn as such, but if it bears any relation to any other kind of film making it will be a 99.99% of waiting, hanging around and getting bored an a 0.000000...1% of something resembling fucking.

Welcome to real world, it´s a hard crash (I know)!!

If I'm not mistaken the only states that is is legal to film porn in is California and Nevada. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember hearing that someplace.

On the subject though, there's alot of us who'd like to do porn but anyone who knows about the industry knows that people are treated like crap. Its not as glamorous as it seems.
Proof:http://www.efukt.com/1922_She'll_Never_Do_Porn_Again_3.html

I agree with Snow, very little of it seems to be related to the "pleasurable" part besides the finished product. The only exception I can come up with, is if you're a big contract star with a major company (Vivid, Wicked, Digital Playground) and have the professional clout to work with who you want and call your own shots.

From what I've read, it's a lot of hurry-up-and-wait, sexy but choreographed and possibly uncomfortable positions, sexy but uncomfortable locations (think sitting on a rock outside in the cold doing a shoot for 8 hours), and a lot of other unpleasant things.. Since you're already swingers, I'd stick with that.

OK lady, i want you to get on your knees...wait..ok, you and you stick your cocks in her ass, and you get in front and shove your cock in her throat after she winks at the camera that's over your back....

okay on the count...5-4-3-2-1...oh shit, hold on.....okay you can't wince like that dammit! i don't care if you've never had two cocks in your ass at the same time, you're under contract...okay guys, on the count ....and lady i said wink not wince!...5-4-3-2-1...ok..good!..good!..WAIT! she's sweating too fucking much, someone get a fucking towel and dry her back off, you guys DON'T pull out of her ass whatever you do, it took 10 minutes to get you in there...ok, try again on the count, and you in front, i want you to pull out and cum on her face ASAP...ok on the count...5-4-3-2-......

Having BEEN on several porn shoots, around porn stars, and involved in directing educational adult vids, you do NOT want anything to do with this industry - flake or not. Tony Comstock is about the ONLY one I'd recommend working with.

Zofo17,
I erased a previous post where I called you a flake. I apologize. Let me rephrase that, I think your idea is flaky. I know nothing about the porn business other than I watch porn flicks. If you like swinging, swing! I think you are trying to make something get better and it is not. Listen to Freddy.
Chow

Zofo17,
I forgot to welcome you here. Welcome. I don't swing but maybe you can post a true erotic story for us. Come visit the chat room.
Chow

My wife and I have been Swingers from 1 month into our relationship and have never stopped. We are deeply in love and both agree that sex should never be confused with love... The number one reason people divorce is infidelity... WHY?? My husband stuck his dick into someone else or some guy gave my wife a dicking??? IT'S JUST SEX!! Get over it! The ultimate thing you can do is give your partner the ultimate in sex, more then 1 person and the choice of others... and know that there are always 3 rules... We go together, we cum together and we leave together... My wife is Bi so how could I ever satisfy her in that manner? She also likes 2 and more guys at once again what could I do for that??? I like to watch her with girls and join in... Again sex and love is 2 different things.. get over the jealous bullshit and enjoy sex! If you truly love, respect and trust your spouse then give them the ultimate in sex and you'll find that you will get the ultimate in love!

zofo....a word to the wise my friend.....be careful how you phrase things.....

Everyone on here has different likes, dislikes, kinks etc. We agree to disagree.

I have learned from experience that expressing strong opinions such as "If you truly love, respect and trust your spouse then give them the ultimate in sex and you'll find that you will get the ultimate in love! or The ultimate thing you can do is give your partner the ultimate in sex, more then 1 person and the choice of others..." can be insulting and offensive to some people because it can come across as "if ya don't swing, ya don't love your partner".

Some swing, some don't....that doesn't mean they don't love one another or give each other their 'ultimate love'.

We are all entitled to our own opinions....just be careful how you choose to phrase yours......

Unless you've tried it then obviously you can't say I'm wrong... if you are trying swinging to set your marriage right it's not going to work but if you enter it for the fun it IS the ultimate pleasure that sex can give... No matter how anyone tries they cannot match the feeling of 2+ women or for a man you can't equal the touch of a woman on your wife or 2+ guys on your wife... Never would I say you can't be in love if you don't swing you just can't experience a full sexual event unless you swing...

Zofo17, the thread satinpussycat is referencing is this one on non-monogamy. As she said, we all have different views, and sometimes we agree to disagree, but we all respect one another regarding what we think. That's what's cool about F&E

Also, I don't think anyone was saying anyone was jealous or that you'd be jealous or anything of the sort. We were simply saying that the porn business isn't as sexy as it seems, so it may not be what you're looking for as far as something new to add to your relationship.

Wow, someone's a tad touchy about the sex life.

Zofo, Its cool if you like to swing. Some people do, some people don't. My girlfriend likes rough sex. Some people do, some people don't. Here, its all the same.

If you want to discuss it, all well and good, but you're gonna find that coming across like a walking add for fanatical swinging (BTW: Swinging: It's THE Ultimate pleasure could work for a nice tag line) probably doesn't work well here. In fact, some people may think you're acting a bit like a dick. (No pun intended)

Stop. Take a breath, and chill for a second. If you'd taken the time to read the board, you'd have noticed that things here are a tad more laid back than your average sex forum.

A bit of info on the site:

The average IQ is higher, the education levels tend to be more diverse, and the levels of personal maturity tend to be extremely high.

You'll also notice we come from all walks of life; Off the top of my head, there's a couple of sex shop owners (both online and brick & mortar), a porn producer, a welder, several members of the U.S. armed forces (and accompanying spouses), an evil genius, several members of the medical community, and in general a wide variety of backgrounds. I myself have an educational background in sex, and am in the middle of applying to grad school for Couples therapy specializing in Human Sexuality. All walks of life, all forms of humanity, all classes, races, and cultures.

No pressure, no judgment.

Notice the lack of actual criticism? Lots of suggestions, and some thoughts from some VERY knowledgeable people (Listen to Freddy- Owning a popular upscale sex shop in California is sorta like owning a key to the sex industry, I'd expect), but very little in the way of criticism. This isn't your average web forum- remind yourself of that every time you log on.

Relax- you can't prove that swinging is the best sex on the planet other than FOR YOU. And, while people may disagree, its always according to THEIR experiences, and simply a reflection of their own thoughts. No one here will tell you that swinging is wrong for you. They may warn against certain dangers/hardships associated with it, but I've never seen anyone condemned on here for doing something (lawfully) kinky. Same goes for porn- People on here who have experience with the industry will tell you most of it is bad news for the people involved, and that unless you're a power player or can find someone who actually gives a shit about sensuality and love (Comstock et al.) you'll likely end up making stock porn footage. If that's cool with you, no one here will call you on it. They're just telling you what they know.

If you dig swinging, then you dig swinging- trust me, no one here is concerned or offended by that fact. If there's one place you don't have to defend your sexual preferences, its most assuredly F&E.

So relax, enjoy, and buy some shit from Freddy and Eddy's online store- Its got the best customer service in the industry.

That's how I Wagon-wheel.

I thought this was a thread about wanting to be in a porn? How did we wind up discussing the facets of swinging?